Cascadia Seed Guild

Sharing data base of Cascadia Seeds

  • Sharing data base of Cascadia Seeds

    Posted by Brian Kerkvliet on December 13, 2023 at 11:12 am

    How do we build a data base for the seed sharing network.

    What platform is it on? Google sheets? farm OS? other?

    How can people access it?

    Who maintains it and keeps it up to date?

    How do the seeds get stored and distributed?

    What are the quality controls in place to insure seed saving and recording of methods are kept?

    Just some thoughts….

    We have been working on this for a bit at Salish Seed Guild, https://www.salishseed.org

    Mike replied 2 months ago 3 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Mike

    Steward
    December 13, 2023 at 12:11 pm

    Thanks Brian, that’s a great question, here in Eugene we started using farmOS around 7-8 years ago. Around 5 years ago we added a multi-site capability, sort of a fork which we labelled “Perma-Ledger” Here is a link so you can take a look around to see what you think, The Access Denied will go away after you log-in (obvious I know 😉

    User guest Pw !kL82xTug&

    Plantings | Eugene Perma-Ledger

    • Mike

      Steward
      December 13, 2023 at 5:55 pm

      Just a bit more info about Perma-Ledger, we currently have 1,500 seeds-plants listed in the database and 1,117 seeds varieties, actually available. We can both export and import lists in .csv format.

  • Mike

    Steward
    December 13, 2023 at 12:19 pm

    And I missed one important point, pretty all the admin-maintenance work has been do by me, plus a good friend did some data-entry early on. Oh and we added the QR code facility, this is not native to farmOS.

  • cascadiabrandon

    Steward
    December 13, 2023 at 1:04 pm

    So. I’d love to hear what you all think is best for creating a Bioregional Database. What type of information are you collecting, sharing etc. This might be a good use of Kumu, which is a relational database, or we also had a meeting with the people who organized this: https://www.catalist.network/explore-spaces which is built on Kumu. It’s basically a front end interface for Kumu, so a big database, but ack. It’s just …. a lot right now. They’re developers would probably be willing though to work down to what specifically you would need. Or we could also explore how we could use the WordPress? I’m more unfamiliar with the seed world, so just here to listen, learn and try to figure out how to best help and support!.

    • Mike

      Steward
      December 13, 2023 at 5:56 pm

      farmOS-Perma-Ledger uses a relational database, in our case MySQL.

  • Mike

    Steward
    December 13, 2023 at 1:13 pm

    Thanks @deptofbioregion, I had scheduled the first 2024 Cascadia Seed Guild event for 2024 on January 6 and @inspiration I think we should add this as discussion item; is that OK with you?

    • cascadiabrandon

      Steward
      December 13, 2023 at 2:56 pm

      Correct me if I’m wrong – but I think a “Cascadia Seed Database” would be a great “project” of the Seed Guild.

      • Mike

        Steward
        December 13, 2023 at 5:49 pm

        Brandon, are you meaning we should leave it out of the more public January 6 meeting?

        • cascadiabrandon

          Steward
          December 13, 2023 at 8:23 pm

          No…. the opposite heh. I hope that finding and identifying projects might be a primary focus of gathering :).

          • Mike

            Steward
            December 14, 2023 at 8:16 am

            OK Great and thank you. 🙂

    • Brian Kerkvliet

      Steward
      December 14, 2023 at 9:05 am

      I think that is a good idea. Defiantly something to work on until Spring shows up.

      It is easy enough for a local group or individual to keep track of their seeds on a spread sheet but if we want to share these across the region we need something more sophisticated. Web or app based, easy to use.

      There is a friend here in Bellingham that is working on an app that will have some seed saving and sharing features in it. https://geogardenclub.com/docs/home/sneak-peek

  • Mike

    Steward
    December 18, 2023 at 4:43 pm

    This is a short video we created showing Perma-Ledger and some other related technologies.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2D4TN-nXTI

  • Mike

    Steward
    December 18, 2023 at 5:21 pm

    The use of Kumu for seeds sounds like a unique opportunity I feel.

  • Mike

    Steward
    January 8, 2024 at 9:55 am

    This is an example of a single seed record from the database we are using, we call it Permaledger.

  • Mike

    Steward
    March 12, 2024 at 5:53 pm

    Currently @Steven Morris and I are looking into converting the current MySQL based database into a Holochain distributed application. We will update here as things progress.

    https://developer.holochain.org/get-started/

  • Mike

    Steward
    April 22, 2024 at 1:51 pm

    Here is an update, we are currently looking into migrating the current farmOS-based Perma-Ledger database-Web2 system to the Holochain-Weave-Moss app. https://theweave.social/moss/

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